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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 18, 2009 16:40:49 GMT -5
Okay, I've been trying all the tips I've read for movesets and I've had no luck what so ever. If i post Mel's moveset here can someone help me and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
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Post by danedynamite on Jan 18, 2009 16:42:47 GMT -5
I could try and help you.  |
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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 18, 2009 16:57:21 GMT -5
Standard Actions
Ring-In: Outlaw Ring in
Ring-Out: Backward Ring out
Taunts: Batista 2, Chris Jericho 1, Taunt Linebacker 2, Taunt What? 2
Standing
Strike Attacks: Undertaker Punch 1(Flipped), Spinning Kick 2, Body Punch 1, Shuffle Side Kick 2, Big boot 1
Fists of Fury: Undertaker punch 1(Flipped), Triple H Punch 1, Spinning Kick 2
Grapple moves
Quick Grapple: Big Punch 1, Mongolian Chop 2, Fury Punch 1, Kick to gut 4
Strong Grapple 1:DDT 1, Gut Wrench Suplex, Batista Lift & Toss, Shuffle side kick 4
Ultimate Control 1:Oklahoma
Strong Grapple 2: , Scoop slam 6, Clothesline 20, T-bone suplex 1 1, T-bone 2
Ultimate Control 2: DDT
Grapple from Behind: Backbreaker 9 , Back Suplex 4, German suplex pin 2, Back Suplex pin 2
Ground
Strike Attacks: Wrestling Hero Stomp, Wrestling hero stomp, King Stomp
Grapple Moves: Headlock, Ric Flair Knee drop, SS Dragon Sleeper, Camel Clutch, Belly Stomp, SS Boston Crab
Corner
Strike Attacks: Turnbuckle Clothesline 2, Running Shoulder Attack 1, Knee Attack 1
Grapple Moves: Super last call, Clothesline 24, Knee Strike, Toss to turnbuckle
Grapple from Behind: Neckbreaker 11, Toss into Ring post, Rebound Suplex, Super Back suplex
Sitting Corner grapple:Running Knee strike 1
Rope
Groggy Against Ropes: Shoulder Block 4
Springboard Attacks:
Outside Springboard Attacks: Vaulting Body press 2
Diving Outside Ring Attack:
Diving
Diving Attack vs Stand Opp: Double Axe handle 3, Diving spear
Diving Attack vs Down Opp: Diving body press 1, Diving elbow drop 2
Running
Running Strikes: Clothesline 9, Running shoulder attack 2
Running Grapple:DDT 10, Spear 7
Grapple from Behind:German Suplex 8 Bulldog 3
Ground Strikes: Elbow drop 4, Double Axe handle 4
Irish Whip Rebound: German Suplex 1, Powerslam pin 2
Tag Team
Standing Tag Team:
Corner Tag Team:
Special
Signatures: German Suplex 3, Hurricanrana 9
Finishers:Crucifix Powerbomb, Clothesline from Hell
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Post by danedynamite on Jan 18, 2009 17:38:27 GMT -5
OK on first impressions it looks like issues may be placement, but I won't be able to put the moveset into my game till tomorrow. looking at the strikes it might be a case of power loading which on 08 worked a treat but 09 seems not to work as well. For the first set of grapples try in this order Gutwrench suplex DDT 1 Shuffle Side Kick Batista Lifting Toss (Not sure if this move works or not) Second set Piledriver 1 Scoop Slam 6 Clothesline 20 T-Bone 2 (I think I have Lauren's in the same position and she does it a lot) Ground Grapples I'd put the SS moves in the UP or second slots, the seem to use them there I have found. So if you give that a try and let me know if that works. Tomorrow I can take a better look for you. |
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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 18, 2009 17:42:59 GMT -5
Thank you  |
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Post by danedynamite on Jan 18, 2009 17:55:26 GMT -5
Not a problem If the Batista toss doesn't work you can try a powerbomb, as Mel looks like a big girl so I imagine that she is a powerhouse. |
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Jan 18, 2009 20:35:29 GMT -5
Looks to me as well that you're loading up on the traditional high power moves, which, to me, seems it still transfers over the difficulty of hitting those moves this year constantly. I'd try to find some moves that you know aren't the biggest of impact moves, like the normal Suplexes and Scoop slams and such, and slide those in there as well. As well, add a limb move or something into the Quicks, I see those git hit frequently too.
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Post by Gabriel Cage on Jan 18, 2009 20:55:08 GMT -5
What also helps is what type of CAW she is. Need to fit the type of CAW she is. For example, if she is "bad" or "dirty" then find moves that basically fit the CAW you are building. I like also to make moves that can feed off of other moves and moves that can easily set up your finisher/signatures.
Alot of high impact moves can be reversed so having alot of those are not the key either. Having a good mixture has always worked for the caws that I have seen or made myself. Another key is to make a few CAWS just to test what you have. This year's game is much different from the previous versions. There is no winner a.i. like in the past. It all boils down to match ups and what moves get hit or not. Probably not what you wanted to hear but this year it will depend on having a totally mixed CAW. I would say go with moves that fit your CAW or his/her persona and you will be fine. It can be a crap shoot but once you find the moves that set up other moves then that will be a winner.
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Post by danedynamite on Jan 19, 2009 11:29:37 GMT -5
OK I hate to say this but Candice killed Melissa, I didn't know which of the grapples worked because she didn't get a chance to hit them because Candice was beating Melissa to the punch. I think revising some strikes and including quicker ones, also I know they aren't as common on 09 but your FOF I didn't see.
I'll take a stab at a moveset for you trying to keep in mind what you want Melissa to be and either post here or send a PM. As I looked elsewhere and saw a lot of people offering advice.
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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 19, 2009 11:43:28 GMT -5
I kinda figured that would happen. I've made some tweaks myself, but her moveset seems to be getting worse.
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Post by danedynamite on Jan 19, 2009 11:46:07 GMT -5
Might be a case of overload on ideas from people, I saw the same post in XWA and it got a lot more response than this one.
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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 19, 2009 11:50:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought too much help wouldn't be a bad thing. The tips I was getting there didn't help anyway...
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Jan 19, 2009 12:06:56 GMT -5
Quicker Strikes = win. That's all that Crymson has is a quick, straight to the point strike. Throws them off balance. In fact, Pryor's losing that spinning strike. Fuck that.
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Post by Melissa Armstrong on Jan 19, 2009 12:09:08 GMT -5
Pryor's who I've been testing against. Most times he just whoops Mel's ass. I'll do that with her strikes.
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Jan 19, 2009 12:54:30 GMT -5
That Pryor's nothing compared to what I've been cooking up for him. Especially the overload of SS Moves for someone that, now that I can pick and choose what I want for him, may go through career mode again to lose the submission ability. I'm still on the fence about that, as in-game, I think very few wrestlers use it, including his major inspiration, Jericho.
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