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Post by Amanda Wallace on Nov 19, 2008 11:31:14 GMT -5
A little something that's been being discussed in the Staff Office, note that we ARE save testing for one possibility... State of the Fed, November 2008 Well, we're now into the post release time of Smackdown vs Raw 2009, on our way to the second season of Global Championship Wrestling. It is at this time, that the 2009 season of GCW is fleshed out. Now, GCW has never ran as smoothly as we wish it would. Throughout its existence, we've had constant turmoils in staff changes, activity dropping, so on and so forth, so uphill climbs are nothing new. Which, is what we're looking at at this present time. At this point in time, there is only one staff member in possession of 2009 on the Playstation 2, -THAT has the full-time appeal to be able to put in full effort into starting the season smoothly. Which, obviously, is short on the man-power side, especially for a federation that requires numerous Memory Cards. Which, basically is slave labor to the single staff member, to have to do all of the testing, creation, CAW gathering, AND hacking, with an ARMax of all devices... Overkill in the hacking department for a game that will heavily need hacks. The outlook for more staff members to be able to 1.) Be able to be full time to provide ample assistance, or 2.) afford to purchase the other version of the game in this holiday season in an economic recession time is fairly dismal at this point. Should the season continue on Playstation 2, it would likely be under heavy restrictions, including the banishment of abilities, default attributes, and even the roster cap that another option could provide. That other option is this. Currently, two staff members with full time, or close to full time capabilities to get GCW up and running smoothly for the 2009 season are in possession of the Playstation3 version, with the 360 version being in possession of only one person. That would make the PS3 a potential candidate to run GCW on, under strict organization. A bit of a harder route, but do-able. All CAWs would have to be received in Formula form, for instance, as well as definitely limiting the roster to 30, as there is no way to swap CAWs between profiles. Which, could be a blessing in disguise, as it allows more focus on single characters, and could keep burnout from piling up on individuals, particularly those that bring in more characters than they can handle. The Genders would be definitely split, however, and completely limited on the Debutante side, which could force us to even it out on the mens, or have the Debutante division run as what the public (WWE) showcases it as already: Normal matches. What is advantageous, however, aside from multiple copies being in possession of the staff, is more customization. Theme music can be stored right on the PS3 and implemented in game, allowing for much less time to be spent on video editing. As well, Customization is to be patched in on both current-gen systems, bringing attributes and abilities back under our control, and saving GCW from having to be run on default measures, especially if the saves can be transferred from NTSC to PAL with ease. Nothing is final yet, but with already some good storylines brewing, such as the APW purchase, we're looking at any and all options to make sure GCW is capable of pushing forward to allow these stories to grow, as well as to keep a hobby for some of us alive. Some sacrifices will have to be made, and for right now, the only real thing we can look at as a definite? The roster size will indeed be smaller. In fact, there's about a 99.9% chance that it will be only 30, so expect some major roster cuts, as we figure out the best way to trim the roster down, based on last year's activity, how many individual handlers that we have, so on and so forth. As well, be ready for a formula only year, because the potential could be very real.
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Post by jj on Nov 19, 2008 21:08:13 GMT -5
well as you know, I am fully capable of capturing matches on the ps2, and will do so, the thing I dont think I'll be able to keep up with if I became a simmer is formulas, Im extremely slow at making them, and using them to make CAWs, so if GCW switches to formulas only, I'm not trying to be childish in any way here, but my future here may be non existent, now I'm not saying I'm gonna definately walk, but I have to prioritize which I didnt do last season, I have things in my RL that come far ahead of this, because as u say this is a hobbie. but if you're looking for a simmer on ps2, as long as I don't get formulas, I'm capable of doing so at the expense of my personal fed(TAP), because I will almost certainly have no time left for it
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Nov 19, 2008 23:33:46 GMT -5
We're aware of how things are shaping up for individuals regarding real life. Fed life now is vastly different from when I started in 2006, when a ton of people practically lived on the boards until they had to go to school or work, or somebody made them go to bed (or they passed out from pure exhaustion ). If it goes down to a 30 man roster, more than likely it'd severely limit the amount of accounts a person could possess as well, to make sure we can squeeze in as many unique IPs as well. But, in the shortened amount of accounts, it will hopefully allow some of those of you that may be light on time to hopefully scrounge up enough to type one form (which is still a daunting task, as I've typed up both Pryor and Crymson and it took almost an hour a piece... >_>). If not, hopefully we can find someone to help you out, should we go next gen. We still have the Region Save bit to mess with first (WTF, Sony. Region free my ass...). Kyle's a person that's been with me since his beginning, if I'm correct in FCW, and he can probably attest to how much everything has changed just since then. But, PS2, whatever help you can do, is great. We are looking for both creators and simmers, and if someone can do just one or the other that is wonderful, as Robin had just informed me about you saying you'd be able to help shortly before we posted this. It still went up however, to inform everybody that we're doing the best we can to make sure GCW can and still does work for 2009, whatever limitations we have to take, since they will be necessary this year. I myself can't really see myself able to afford buying another version of this game with a new girlfriend in my corner, on top of the new place, car, and now that my credits getting better, saving for a house, so it's not like a lot of you are the only ones feeling the sting of change as well. We're doing our best to make due, and hopefully we'll have a place for you guys to release some creativity soon.
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Post by Daniel Justice on Nov 19, 2008 23:35:47 GMT -5
I like the idea of GCW going to PS3 this year actually. Not only will the graphics improve, but I know a lot of people are turning to Nex-Gen consoles this year. I also don't mind having to type up a formula as I have Justice made already on the PS3, so once I type up the formula once, if minor changes are needed, all that's needed to be done is edit the formula. Also, a 30 person roster sounds like a great idea as well as cards won't be clustered, and feuds will be more acknowledged. Now I know that for people like me, who left during the middle of last season and are back for this season have a slimmer chance of getting back in with the roster cap, which I hope isn't the case here because I have some ideas for Justice going into this season. As for simming, I know that the fact of me leaving half way through the season doesn't make me seem too reliable but it's certain I'll be sticking it out for the long run this time around, so if you need someone to sim for PS3 if it does go PS3, I have no problem working with formula's so if you need someone, I'm always available.
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Nov 19, 2008 23:43:36 GMT -5
Well, right now, the difficulty for PS3 is region coded saves. The difficulty w/ PS2 is lack of people with the game, as some staffers want to cut back some as well so their not living on the boards when the season starts too.
The mention of the fueds is one reason why I was pitching condensed rosters, nearly from the beginning, actually, and with smaller rosters being a most likely definite on either platform, it does bring more to the light of the Storyboards board that will be visible to everybody once you get your new Member Groups. That way we know what is going on from a staff standpoint, as well as who's doing what, and, if something's running hugely mainstream, like the Chris Jericho / Michaels fued that just ended in WWE, it's something that we could perhaps run a title into as well through our recently talked about #1 Contender system.
The #1 contender system is still in its beta forms, sort of been put off being discussed while the platform issue has come up, but will more than likely see staff take a complete step into the major title scenes to make sure we have active individuals that are earning title shots, get a chance at getting them. More than likely the CAW will have to add a win to fully earn the shot at a PPV, but it could be a good way for us to help some fueds along by adding in some more stakes as well.
A lot of people left in the middle of last season, yours truly included. I think all of my characters floundered at one aspect, since 2008 was a shitty year personally, and fed wise for me anyways. I think that was the same across the board with just about every handler we had in here as well, so I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it hampering your way into getting on the roster, since I previously mentioned that getting unique IP addresses in here is a top priority.
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Post by Daniel Justice on Nov 19, 2008 23:57:50 GMT -5
Ah I see. Yeah the region coded saves could be a hassle on the PS3. And I also see the point of the staff not wanted to live on the boards as well. If most of the people have the game for the PS3, then that'd be the best bet probably to test out since I'm sure that most people won't want to get the game for the PS2 as well. But whatever is decided by the staff, I'm sure shall be what's best for the fed in general for the upcoming season. The #1 Contender system sounds like a great idea once it's all planned out. I like the idea that if a main stream feud is brewing in the fed, that a title could be brought into the mix because it makes things realistic for one, as well as the people who are devoting their time to get a working feud going here, are the ones to get the championship shots instead of others who will just make out a challenge, hope for it to be accepted, and if their CAW has a good movelist, end up winning when really, they don't deserve a shot in the first place. So I see this #1 Contenders System as a great idea and could work out great IMO. Oh and it's good to hear that I don't need to worry too much about getting back on the roster for this season as well lol .
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Post by wlj on Nov 20, 2008 2:52:07 GMT -5
I have sent to a PM Amanda hopefully you'll read it.
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Post by Xaviera Spirit Evolution on Nov 20, 2008 14:57:04 GMT -5
PS2 = Debutante Division Next Gen= Men's
Because honestly, I hate the limitations women have when you're unable hack them into certain match types, and I hate the breasts physics on next gen systems.
That's really all I have to say. >_>;
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Post by danedynamite on Nov 20, 2008 17:03:14 GMT -5
If PS2 we currently have no people who can hack, my AR MAX is a pain in the ass to do it with. Best I could do would be attributes.
Circumstances have changed with me and I can't spend hours each week doing staffing work, without meaning to slam you but I have a life and at the moment I am enjoying it. Marriage and a baby on the way, it takes priority over a virtual escape from life. So my wanting leave/reduce staffing for this reason affects the fed, but a solution for the survival of the fed has been put out there.
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Nov 20, 2008 23:26:15 GMT -5
Yeah, either way, the Debutante division is going to be limited, unfortunately.
Can't bring myself to buying the PS2 version as well, and looking at spending hours between two versions, some of the same reasons as Jay above me... commitment-wise. This is where GCW starts going more into hobby mode instead of Job mode, so some sacrifices will take place.q
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Post by Scott Manor on Nov 21, 2008 9:48:54 GMT -5
I know a lot of people will prolly disagree but possibly maybe GCW should downgrade so to speak. Go from videos to written results like WTF used to be like for those who were there. Go strict formulas and written results except maybe the PPV's. This would probably allow the staff to get more simmers to help out probably reducing the workload for current simmers and that.
Course this puts more pressure on the members to not just up and leave if they have to sim a match for GCW.
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Post by Bou on Nov 21, 2008 9:55:17 GMT -5
I like the idea personally of GCW going next gen. Even if I'm not rping and might not be rping (it all depends), its definitely a good idea in my opinion.
Edit: And for the people that don't like formula typing - no one does. But if you have to do it to continue on in GCW, you have to do it. I've typed up two formulas already this year. I didn't have to but I wanted to, because I want to share my stuff with my friends.
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Post by Amanda Wallace on Nov 21, 2008 10:10:27 GMT -5
I know a lot of people will prolly disagree but possibly maybe GCW should downgrade so to speak. Go from videos to written results like WTF used to be like for those who were there. Go strict formulas and written results except maybe the PPV's. This would probably allow the staff to get more simmers to help out probably reducing the workload for current simmers and that. Course this puts more pressure on the members to not just up and leave if they have to sim a match for GCW. ... No. As a sim fed, we're having video. Either way, the staff will still have to sim to give you a result, so it's not even saving us some time. That sounds like the death bell moreso than the fact that we're pretty much having to change for next year anyways, since I'm hearing about underground bitchings with no feedback in this thread. Writing up, and giving details sounds like more of a workload in actuality, not to mention you don't visually see how well your CAW did, and what can be improved in a future update.
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Post by Yoshi Nagata on Nov 21, 2008 12:30:34 GMT -5
Next Gen GCW sounds like a pretty good deal. Some drawbacks are, as Amanda stated, the limitation of the female division, but its a minor thing. Cage matches, ladder matches, etc, etc aren't priority, and to be honest, I tend to hate those types of match types. Normal, Tag, 6-Man Tag, is good enough. Another thing a lot of people seem to dislike about Next Gen is breast bouncing. Tis a minor detail as well, and face it, breasts bounce. I know, I know, they don't bounce as bad as the game (or any video game for that matter. DOA and Rumble Roses anyone?) make it seem, but they do bounce to a degree, hell, mine do under my attire (there's a nice image for people ). Like I said, it sounds like a good idea and would be interesting to see the fed take the step into next gen. And as for the underground bitchers that aren't brave enough to post in this thread about why they don't like it? Change happens all the time, get the fuck over it and give ideas, opinions, etc, etc instead of bitching on messengers. Not like you've done anything to contribute anyway or you'd be in this thread giving your opinion.
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Post by Stacie Wilson on Nov 21, 2008 13:36:19 GMT -5
I can honestly say, I'm not bitching about the fed, If I didn't like where it was going, I wouldn't have brought Stacie here . A limited women's division division, isn't an unfortunate thing really, how often in real life feds do you see women in extreme matches? If your feud absolutely hinges on needing HiaC or a LMS it isn't much of a feud is it? I as well would like to see GCW move to next Gen, as I have a copy of SVR on PS3. Depending on my job situation when the season starts I would be happy to sim if we were to move to to the PS3. Now as to why I disappeared halfway through the season, I got burnt out, I'm just starting to get over itso my activity level might see a jump here in the next couple of days.
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